Burnout or Rust Out? Understanding the Hidden Difference

In this candid conversation, transformation coach Matt Devine and neuroscientist Bryson Tibbitts unpack two powerful but often misunderstood conditions: burnout and the newly emerging concept of rust out.

Burnout is the familiar state of running too hot — overdrive, stress, and eventual crash. Rust out, on the other hand, is the quiet erosion that comes from under-stimulation, disengagement, and coasting on autopilot.

Together, Matt and Bryson compare symptoms, share neuroscience insights, and explore practical steps to recognize and reverse both states before they take a lasting toll. Whether you’re a leader, professional, or simply curious about mental performance, this discussion will help you spot the difference — and start building the balance that leads to thriving. Awareness is the first step to change. Take the Thriving Leader Survey today and uncover how you’re really doing 👉 HERE